{"id":6971,"date":"2020-03-12T15:46:51","date_gmt":"2020-03-12T07:46:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nutritional-humility.me\/oxystaging\/?p=6971"},"modified":"2020-04-16T12:54:05","modified_gmt":"2020-04-16T04:54:05","slug":"soho-forum-socialism-vs-capitalism-debate-timestamp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nutritional-humility.me\/oxystaging\/soho-forum-socialism-vs-capitalism-debate-timestamp\/","title":{"rendered":"SOHO FORUM: Socialism Vs Capitalism debate (timestamp)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Capitalism vs. Socialism: A Soho Forum Debate\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YJQSuUZdcV4?start=3479&feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>A conversation map to guide future prospective viewers. Take it or leave it; it is simply my imploration to help. This time - reason.tv's Oxford-style debate of Socialism vs Capitalism feat. Professor Richard D. Wolff and Dr. Gene Epstein<\/p>\n<p>It is an understatement that my concept initiative revolves solely around decentralised nutritional science. I've discussed and relate to many challenging issues of experimental <a href=\"https:\/\/nutritional-humility.me\/oxystaging\/universe-25-mouse-utopia-part1-2\/\">Economics<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/nutritional-humility.me\/oxystaging\/survivorship-bias\/\">Psychology<\/a>. Also, consider watching my full dissertation video as pilot <a href=\"https:\/\/nutritional-humility.me\/oxystaging\/utopia-as-dystopia-feature-dissertation-summary\/\">viral attempt to showcase (myself) in person<\/a> for the very first, time. Unfortunately, 3 months of work still barely gathers any viewerships.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div id=\"content\" class=\"style-scope ytd-expander\"><span class=\"style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\">...and how time flies. <strong>This now marks my 100th post. Yet so far - only one (1) public comment<\/strong> is genuinely received. For nearing five (5) long years since this initiative's existence.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>-- AW&#x2122;.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><a class=\"yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=155s\">00:02:35<\/a><span class=\"style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\"> : Proff. Richard D Wolff initial case: pro socialism. <\/span><a class=\"yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=380s\">00:06:20<\/a><span class=\"style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\"> Communism like Socialism, need to be transformed. Aim: \u201cdemocratisation\u201d of workplace. <\/span><a class=\"yt-simple-endpoint style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=660s\">00:11:00<\/a><span class=\"style-scope yt-formatted-string\" dir=\"auto\"> Capitalism always expects <\/span><span dir=\"auto\">cycles of failures \u201cbusiness cycles\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/full\/10.1177\/0306396818769016\">[see implied reference ~ from four to seven years]<\/a>. <\/span><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=900s\">00:15:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\"> \u201cWork\u201d is no democracy at all. Past experiments - Cuba, USSR, etc - still ironically leave all powers to handful few.<\/span> <a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=1200s\">00:20:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"auto\">Dr. Gene Epstein initial case Begins: contra socialism, former socialist at youth. Despite government intervention believed capitalism is far more preferable by far than failed experiments the USSR, Cuba, etc. <\/span><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=1320s\">00:22:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\"> Advocates and agrees with Richard\u2019s case \"Employee should become their own employers\u201d . <\/span><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=1490s\">00:24:50<\/a><span dir=\"auto\"> : [facts cited] without government coercion, democratisation workplace seems impossible. <\/span><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=1620s\">00:27:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Richard\u2019s model would aim to overthrow venture capitalism; alongside \u201csocialised banking\u201d. <\/span><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=1740s\">00:29:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: critique on Richard model of selecting 1960s model of \u201cparticipatory democracy\u201d; citing another author\u2019s sentiment on this model\u2019s unsustainability. Freedom of speech and journalism likely remain under threat within Socialism. <\/span><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=2160s\">00:36:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: admission that current system indeed has much to improve; due to Federal Reserve\u2019s flawed and unstable policies.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=2310s\">00:38:30<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: <\/span><span dir=\"auto\">Rebuttal (Wolff) begins. Response\/proposal: make existing system \u201cbetter\u201d. Dispelling the fear of current paternalism of \u201cmaking do with what we have.\u201d. Transform at the base of society - not at the overarching ruling of a Government (the few), but by its citizens by re-examining the relationship of employers vs employees (the majority). <\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=2630s\">00:43:50<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Rebuttal (Epstein) begins. Response\/proposal: lack of specificity and clarity in Richard\u2019s model of socialism; lack of clarity in all microcosmic planning. Encourage more co-ops as mutual workers movement. Current system advocates privatisation of all \u201cprofits\u201d but at least socialise all \u201closses\u201d. Advocate \u201cbeing in business for yourself\u201d as self-directed enterprise. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=2965s\">00:49:25<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Audience Q &amp; A begins. Q for Wolff: Why is it not possible to learn about Marxist economics within present academia institutions?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=3417s\">00:56:57<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Q For Wolff: in a 100% true capitalist model whereby freedom is desired why shouldn\u2019t there be a platform allowing an even split \/ coexistence solely for capitalists and another for socialists? <\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=3580s\">00:59:40<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Q for Richard: non-aggression principle - does socialism intrinsically violate this principle?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=4032s\">1:07:12<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Q: is economic growth ideal? What about AI? working hours debate. <\/span> <a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=4440s\">1:14:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Q: opioid crisis - how does socialism solve this? <\/span> <a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=4645s\">1:17:25<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Q for Richard - Will socialism be or not be mandated by the state?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=4800s\">1:20:00<\/a><span dir=\"auto\"> Q: are federal domestic tax rates the only way to fund federal spending?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=4820s\">1:20:20<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Q: Where \/ how does technology fits in all this debate? Which \u201cplatitudes\u201d is better - capitalist or communist?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a dir=\"auto\" spellcheck=\"false\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=YJQSuUZdcV4&amp;t=5070s\">1:24:30<\/a><span dir=\"auto\">: Final statements from Richard and Gene. Richard: \u201cThere is no such thing as singular socialism.\u201d Gene: \u201cWe are both radicals.\u201d .\u201dWe believe in individual rights.\u201d. <\/span> <span dir=\"auto\">\u2014<\/span> <span dir=\"auto\">Amends welcome. Please help yourself \/ contribute further in the comments.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A conversation map to guide future prospective viewers. Take it or leave it; it is simply my imploration to help. This time - reason.tv's Oxford-style debate of Socialism vs Capitalism feat. Professor Richard D. Wolff and Dr. Gene Epstein It is an understatement that my concept initiative revolves solely around decentralised nutritional science. 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