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https:\/\/youtu.be\/s0zgNY_kqlI<\/a><\/p>\n

An old post I kept private for sometime since December 2019. But only till now that I feel it's right to repost this.<\/p>\n

A conversation map to guide future prospective viewers. Take it or leave it; it is simply my imploration to help. This is for the (rather heated up) Kresser VS Wilks's Game Changers<\/a> post film debate, within the Joe Rogan podcast.<\/p>\n

AW™<\/p>\n

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00:02:00<\/a><\/span>: Wilks opening scrutiny to Kresser \u201cAre you a nutrition expert?\u201d Wilks assertion the importance of authoritarianism ; aka. \u201cappeal \/ surrendering to authority\u201d. And (later on) value correctness singularity. <\/span><\/p>\n

00:07:00<\/a><\/span>: Wilks assertion at highlighting dubious practises behind industry-backed findings. Initial scrutiny of the doco\u2019s seemingly emotive correlation exercise of meat intakes and cancer by alluding its severity to that as smoking causes cancer.\u00a0 <\/span>Then soon, 00:10:20<\/span><\/a>: Wilks refuses at addressing Rogan\u2019s unaddressed scrutiny. <\/span><\/p>\n

00:13:50<\/a><\/span>: Wilks critique on Kresser\u2019s\u00a0 <\/span>quotation as being allegedly altered from simply adding up numbers to support his stance on dairy - prostrate cancer inverse correlation (71% showed no association + 13% decreased risk = 84% inverse relationship). However for almost 20 minutes of hostility - Wilks continued to deny any misinterpretations.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

00:25:00<\/a><\/span> : Wilks admits there is no correlation, yet still labels Kresser\u2019s quotation as deceptive. <\/span><\/p>\n

00:35:00<\/a><\/span> : Wilks continued to criticise Kresser\u2019s egoism. By repeated questioning \u201cso you do not trust any experts in their solitary field?\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n

00:38:00<\/a><\/span> : when Rogan questioned as to where how or what accounted to such evaluation that over 100s of Phds have reviewed the movie - Wilks repetitively claimed they all came from one agency -\u201cDepartment of Defence\u201d, \u201cDefence Health Agency\u201d. For approx 15 minutes, appeals-to-authority arguments persists back and forth intermittently in-between urgencies to advance conversation.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

00:45:15<\/a><\/span> - Kresser neutrality stance within nutritional science. <\/span><\/p>\n

00:56:00<\/a><\/span> mins: Why meat is bad for you (returning to prior-train-of-thought debate) Heme iron absorption contexts \/ Fruits & Vegs offsetting harmful effects. And then at 00:56:30<\/span><\/a> - Wilks highlighting Kresser\u2019s incompetence on interpreting medical literature.<\/span><\/p>\n

01:06:05<\/a><\/span> : B12, Homocysteine. Then fat absorptions \/ need of B12 accessibility, stages of B12 deficiencies. Then soon at 01:29:40<\/span><\/a> Wilks admits animal products needs to be incorporated for B12. <\/span><\/p>\n

01:37:10<\/a><\/span> Wilks claim B12 supplement is very affordable - $2 for entire year.<\/span><\/p>\n

01:39:40<\/a><\/span> Protein discussion begin. Then at 01:44:50<\/span><\/a> Wilks also agree that combining plants and animal meats is good. <\/span><\/p>\n

02:00:55<\/a><\/span>: how lobbying industry backed-studies confounds meta-analysis verdicts. <\/span><\/p>\n

02:15:00<\/a><\/span>: <still haven\u2019t returned back to Protein train-of-thought\/discussion>. 02:26:15<\/span><\/a> Protein train-of-thought FINALLY revisited. <\/span><\/p>\n

02:29:00<\/a><\/span>: Wilks\u2019 assertion on peanut butter sandwich, including the bread - is comparable to lean beef in protein. Comparison protein \/ cals charts later on. <\/span><\/p>\n

02:55:30<\/a><\/span>: Protein Quality train-of-focus FINALLY begins. Then later on 03:01:50<\/span><\/a>: in the context of chronic protein deficits (30g per day) - Wilks agree - \u201cget your protein from meat\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n

03:10:00<\/a><\/span>: Wilks agree that for maximum MPS requires higher protein brackets - 2.0-2.2g \/kg. Then later at 03:14:15<\/span><\/a> - Digestibility of proteins. Plant proteins vs animal proteins = seems to be only\u00a0 <\/span>\u201cfew percentage of differences\u201d. <\/span><\/p>\n

03:20:00<\/a><\/span> - Wilks considering more series of TV releases on plant-based eating.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

03:22:00<\/a><\/span> - Endothelial function discussion begins. Kresser shared various studies on animal & dietary proteins improve endothelial functions, including low carbohydrate formatting. However Wilks dismisses all as potentially industry\/lobby-backed findings. <\/span><\/p>\n

03:27:00<\/a><\/span> - The \u201ccloudy fat in the blood = poor endothelial function\u201d argument. Before then Wilks proceed towards triglycerides, FMD \/ flow-mediated dilation association studies on animal based eating (yet low protein intake studies). <\/span><\/p>\n

03:32:09<\/a><\/span> - Kresser included studies showing both COMBINED animal and plant based eating including SOY, milk, eggs = prevented post-prandial endothelial dysfunction. Wilks continued to suspect all as industry-backed \/ funded findings. <\/span><\/p>\n

03:33:45<\/a><\/span> - (slightly hostile) Wilks once again questions Kresser\u2019s competencies at interpreting literature. <\/span><\/p>\n

03:35:00<\/a><\/span>: creatine. Other counter arguments all remain yet to be discussed.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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